December 11th, 2003

Andrei in the office

Suggested Paid members new product: 25 block interests

One of the functions that most catches my attention on LJ and seems to be one of the largest resource drains is the interest list. This is capped at 150 per user regardless of level (free, paid, perm). Each logged in user polling userinfo.bml does an immediate list-to-list compare in order to generate the links. The links for an interest now give a list that represents .07% That is. Throttling 1.5 Million users to 1000: 500 Communities and 500 Users.

The discussion on an earlier post to this community discusses the resource needs of trying to compile this data on the fly and of course this simply comes down to use of function vs. revenue to supply the equipment to do the task.

While I don't have hard and fast data (though I'm willing to try to write some analytical software to supply said data), I would estimate that at least 1/2 of the 'active' users (interpret active as you will) are sitting up against this 150 interest ceiling. This suggests there is at least demand to increase that limit. Doing so costs processor time. So, this would seem the perfect place to allow users to push a revenue stream into LJ. It seems to have worked well with user icons which is another purchase to expand function. Whereas with interests, the cost is more storage space that computational.

I'd be interested to hear some commentary on the possibliity, likelihood, and even the limitations that this idea has. I do not know a great deal of the internals of LiveJournal and can only many educated guesses as to the specifics of the resource needs for this.

Thanks

Deleting inactive usernames: relax

People are already starting to freak out, so let me make this clear:

We are NOT going to just go around haphazardly deleting inactive/old journals!

Before we start deleting anything, we're going to have very clear and published rules, and they're going to be very conservative.

We haven't thought it all through yet, and we won't start anything until we do, but here are some examples of exceptions:

-- ever a paid account: not deleted

-- listed as deceased (we have a list, and we'll solicit others for the list): not deleted

-- notable number of posts over a notable amount of [real] time: not deleted. (real time is server time, not when they said the post is from back/future-dating it)

-- notable number of comments on any post from other valid users: not deleted.

-- was invited in some notable way: not deleted. (notable is vague here, but we can tell a lot about how users join from the invite code they used....)

-- recent posts: not deleted

-- recent comments: not deleted

-- recently logged in or did any changed in their account: not deleted

So what does this leave us?

Very, very little.

We'll only be deleting journals that are empty, old, and had no influence, probably made just to hog a username, or made and promptly forgotten. But we'll be super paranoid about it, and even back them up first. (because of the rules above, the backups should be very small)

And we'll also mail the account first, warning them of the impending action.

Now, please relax. The mention of this plan in the news post was just so people wouldn't complain about username grabbers. We've thought about it, and there are solutions. We don't have them all yet, but we're not going to do anything drastic.

Spammers/Trolls, Karma/Whuffie

To people concerned about the increase in spammers and trolls with the removal of invite codes, fear not:

We're going to let you flag a user as a spammer or troll when you delete their comments from your journal.

Then, with those aggregate statistics, we'll be able to stop them. (Clarification: after a human staff member reviews it)

We might even do the much-hated/much-loved "Karma" thing, and you can prevent new comments in your journal from people with too low of karma. (people marking them as a troll/spammer lowers their karma...)

We can start discussing what increases and decreases Karma (or "Whuffie", which I'd prefer to call it) in this thread, and whether or not it could work....

DISCLAIMER: We're not actually working on any of this. We're just talking about it right now. We won't make any changes until there's a real problem. We will discuss any real plan before we start working on it.
D Sphere

um... question

I'm all for the sale of permanent accounts, man I'd love one of those. I'd pay a hefty reasonable amount, because it's so worth it. A permanent account and a t-shirt sounds like the perfect combination. how much do you think that could run for? pretty sure you can count me in.

oh, and by the way... why is lj_biz a member of:
biteyourheadoff, community_promo, fuckfest, jessdev, just_looking, lj_win32, paidmembers, smalltits, and technicalsuport??? there's some awkward ones in there, no doubt. notably f___fest, and small___s.

what's up with that?!
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The "paid time for invite codes" scheme

As you've doubtless seen in news,

We're just going to ditch invite codes altogether. Free users will be able to join without an invite code, and without a 30 day expiration. For the users who value their invite code collection, we'll let you redeem them for paid time, either for yourself or friends. [...] (the exact exchange rate hasn't yet been decided, but we'll try and be generous).

The obvious questions that arise are: what will the exchange rate be and how much will this promotion cost LiveJournal?

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